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    Quote Originally Posted by agta View Post
    You accused them of having faith when they have none! That is one basic error that you committed here. It simply shows that you do not have a correct understanding of what is faith. Besides, you an atheist, have no right teaching others what is faith. For faith, in its correct meaning, is not compatible with corruption. Therefore, when we find corruption in any man, we can be sure that faith is still lacking in him, even if he should shout to the world that he believes in God, much less if he declares to the world that there is no God.
    No, I am not accusing them of having faith. I am stating a fact that 100% of the people in the government do declare and profess to have faith in God. From their own mouth, they said they believe in God. From the point what is faith? It is accepting and believing on something that has no proof or evidence which is arbitrary. An arbitrary is irrational, false and evil. Thus it is the very root of corruption. For "faith" an action itself is corrupt. This leads more to further corruption in other aspect of man's life: politics and ethics.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by acpatagnan View Post
    No, I am not accusing them of having faith. I am stating a fact that 100% of the people in the government do declare and profess to have faith in God. From their own mouth, they said they believe in God. From the point what is faith? It is accepting and believing on something that has no proof or evidence which is arbitrary. An arbitrary is irrational, false and evil. Thus it is the very root of corruption. For "faith" an action itself is corrupt. This leads more to further corruption in other aspect of man's life: politics and ethics.
    So, you therefore believe that they have faith because they said so? So you think it is a fact that they have faith simply because they said it! What kind of logic is that? If that is how you reason, then you must also believe that there is God because they said so. You must therefore believe that it is a fact that there is God because they said so.

    Now, you have no choice but to believe in what you consider as a fact. You have no choice but to believe that there is God, otherwise, your mind would be warring against your own mouth.
     

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    FAITH - is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.

    God is Good All the Time!!! HE still always love to those individual who don't believe on HIM. He poured out HIS blood to save everyone from the bondages of sin.

    GOD BLESS US ALL!!!
     

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    Hahaha this is already a year old discussion and until now this is still the topic, I've been in Russia for many months but when i come back ito pa rin...hahaha ano ba yan. See what happened now in our country, we are the favorite distination of typhoons, you heard how ondoy and pepe devastated manila and luzon? terrible, many died kailan pa ba ang tao kikilala na may tunay na DIOS...saka ba natin lang kikilalanin kung andyan na ang sakuna at ng hindi dumating ang mga relief goods?
     

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    Typhoons always come to the Philippines. It is a yearly events. Whether you believe in God or not, it will come. The question is whether you are prepared or not. Building a house near a river, without taking in consideration of other factors like flood, typhoon, earthquake is irrationallty or plane stupidity. Actuallly, most of those affected by the flood are believers in God.

    By the way what is faith? believing? What do you do when you have faith in God? What do you do when believing? Specially believing on something that does not exist like God? It is only an emotion or feelings based on the a wrong premise: the existence of God. Faith is simply emotions and feelings.

    If your action is based on emotions it will corrupt your thinking power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acpatagnan View Post

    If your action is based on emotions it will corrupt your thinking power.
    Yeah! Just like what you are doing here in this thread and in most thread that you started.
     

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    ACPatagnan is a kind person who really love to challenge the thinking of GOD, this person soon will call the name of his creator once he will experience the "kapighatian sa buhay" not now maybe but soon this poor creature will bend his knee and ask for forgiveness of harboring godlessness in his heart.

    Matagal na tayo nagkaroon ng debate dito, pero di ako believe sa iyo pre.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    ACPatagnan is a kind person who really love to challenge the thinking of GOD, this person soon will call the name of his creator once he will experience the "kapighatian sa buhay" not now maybe but soon this poor creature will bend his knee and ask for forgiveness of harboring godlessness in his heart.

    Matagal na tayo nagkaroon ng debate dito, pero di ako believe sa iyo pre.
    Matagal-tagal na rin akong hindi nakaka log in dito sa forum. Totoo na I love to challenge the thinking of God. Sabi nga ni Thomas Jefferson sa kanyang pamangkin "question even the existence of God". Walang masama sa pagtatanong tungkol sa paniniwala sa Diyos. Panahon na upang tanong ang mga sarili kung may Diyos ba o wala. Bakit? Dahil ang ating isip ay mapagtanong at kailangan ng kasagutan. Sino ba ang nagdala ng relihiyong Catholic dito sa ating bansa? Hindi ba mga kastila? Ano ba ang paniniwala ng ating mga ninuno bago dumating ang mga kastila? Marahil ay sila ay mga pagano. Paniniwala sa kalikasan na may taglay na kapangyarihan na hindi pa nauunawan noong unang panahon kaya ito ay kanilang sinasamba. Kaya patuloy tayo sa ating talakayan. Sa tagalog naman para maintindihan ng lahat.
     

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