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Gimini 293:
You are right – I have no respect for Glenn Chong or his father or his co-hosts (or for you by the way), and the way I address him is better than I think he deserves. I will outline the reasons (again) soon. I am not asking for your respect. That means nothing to me. I know you say you think I’m stupid. That also means nothing to me, unless we can discuss rationally what you think I’m stupid about, which I would welcome. Why would I not have the right to refer to GC as I see fit? Just be glad I usually omit “dishonorable”.
Your post is emotional, but like all before it, fails to say clearly what charge you are making. I think you are saying that Jun mentioned the date of Nov 17, and yes he denies that. So all you or Glenn Chong have to do to win this part of the argument is to get the tape and post it here if it says what you say. Why is it you haven’t done that in the two months you have been calling Jun a terrorist? That is the minimum a responsible or honorable person would do to support a very damaging accusation, and an honorable person would do it before making the allegation. This is your responsibility, not Jun’s. You are the prosecution. (and Glenn Chong of course)
You say JDR and I are liers. Okay – what lies have I told? What lies has JDR said? You fail to mention that. Can you show me one specific complaint against JDR in this blog that has any substance?
Your last reference to God is puzzling. Are you implying you think what you are doing is righteous? Please, get a clue.
As for Toblerone 289:
It is Glenn Chong who destroys his own name. I just defend the people he maliciously attacks and point out what he does. I haven’t said anything that’s not obvious to anyone paying attention.
It’s really adult to criticize your opponents based on the way they look to you. Not! Are you saying that the work of JDR’s mother is in some way dishonorable? Maybe Gimini would share his clue with you when he gets it.
Can you be a little more specific about what you don’t like about JDR’s conduct at the council. I know of nothing unusual in this respect. Unless you explain better, I must think your perceptions are highly prejudiced & distorted. I would say there has probably never been a congressman before GC who continued to attack his opposition so viciously after the election was over. (This after calling on those involved to “move on” after the very nasty election.) I would not even have entered this discussion except that Glenn Chong was saying very malicious undeserved things over and over and something had to be done.
If the family of JDR owes you money, why have you not attempted to collect in a very long time? They say they are not aware of the debt you reference, and that they are not aware of any debt to Charlie Chong, even from 25 years ago as he purports.
Angry 301,
Saba uy! Pauro Angry ka pa. Dili ka na mao ang orihinal nga Angry-ngit. Trying hard na man nang imong Iningles dinhi.
Hain na man to si Angry-ngit uy, ang forenjer ba nga puti ug panit (hasta itlog)? Namawmawan na seguro. Wala na hinuoy musulat dinhi ug bigot, hypocrite, malicious, Cong, ug uban pang mga pantamay sa Kano sa mga Kana.
Nagsugod to siya ug Praise the Lord ang tuno. Morag lami pamatian. Naunsa ba nga tikadugay ningtipas man, ninggimaw man ang ikog. Ang bag-ong tuno sa iyang sinulatan nahimo na hinuon nga Press the Lewd.
Sige, Men?Darna, Ran Online, Jolieto Rubio, i translate na pod ni kang Angry ug kang Angry-ngit.
ANGRY:
YOU ARE JUST KEEP ON MAKING THIS BLOG A GAME…YOU JUST GO ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND…NO RIGHT DESTINATION AT ALL!!! YOU ARE A BIG LIER BECAUSE YOU DENY AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT JDR DID NOT AIR ON RADIO ABOUT PREDICTIONS OF VOLCANIC ERUPTION!!! HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP!!! JDR IS A BIG LIER BECAUSE HE DID NOT ACCEPT THAT HE BUY VOTES!!!
ANGRY YOU ARE VERY RUDE AND THAT IS OUT OF YOUR RIGHT TO DISRESPECT A PERSON IN POSITION…MAYBE YOU FORGOT ONE RULES OF FOREIGNERS THAT NEED TO FOLLOW IS TO ADDRESSED THE PERSON IN AUTHORITY IN THE RIGHT WAY. WHAT EVER YOUR REASON YOU DON’T HAVE EVEN A PIECE OF RIGHT TO DISRESPECT REP. CHONG!!
EVEN FORMER PRES. ESTRADA WAS CONVICTED IN THE CASE OF PLUNDER ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD STILL ADDRESSED HIM AS PRESIDENT!!! HELLO!!!!!! WHOEVER YOU ARE MAYBE YOUR GOVERNMENT KICK YOU OUT WHERE COUNTRY YOU BELONG BECAUSE OF YOUR VERY RUDE ATTITUDE!!! MAYBE YOU ARE EMBARASSING TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!
AND THERES A LOT MORE!!! HOY JDR TUBAG DIRE KAY PARA GUSTO JUD NAKO MAKIT AN HANGTUD ASA ANG IMO KATAG….AKO KAY DUGAY NA RABA KO GUSTO MAKI PAG DEBATE NIMO…KUNG TINOOD NA TAO KA TUBAGA KO UG DIRETSO KAY SIGE BITAW KO UG TEXT NIMO WA MAN KA MUTUBAG NAKO…SIGE BEH!!!
ANGRY 292/293
AYAW PAGPAKA-ABOGADO IF YOU DO NOT HAVE CLEAR CREDIBLE CREDENTIALS. AFFIDAVITS ARE SWORN TESTIMONIES OF PERSONS WHO HAVE ACTUAL/PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACTS THEY ASSERT IN THEIR SWORN STATEMENTS. AFFIDAVITS ARE ADMISSIBLE IN EVIDENCE IF THE PERSON MAKING THEM ATTESTS BEFORE THE COURT AND IS SUBJECTED TO THE CRUCIBLE CALLED CROSS-EXAMINATION.
KUNG ANG IMONG REASONING MAO ANG SUNDON NATO THAT THE BEST EVIDENCE IS THE SOURCE ITSELF… WELL, THAT KIND OF REASONING EXISTED ONLY DURING THE DARK AGES… IN SHORT PRIMITIVE (APE-LIKE) THINKING NA ANGRY. WHY? BECAUSE THE SOURCE COULD BE AND WILL MOST LIKELY ACT ONLY IN HIS BEST INTEREST… THAT IS TELL THE TRUTH IF IT IS TO HIS ADVANTAGE AND TELL A LIE OR WEAVE EVEN THE MOST FANTASTIC OF LIES IF THAT IS WHAT NECESSARY TO SAVE HIS NECK. IN SHORT, KAMING MGA PROFESSIONAL UG MAY MGA UTOK, IMONG GUSTO IPAREHO SA IMO UG KANG JDR NGA MGA UTOK-UNGOY… PATUOHON MI NINYO SA INYONG ISTORYA BISAN UG LANTARANG BAKAK NA! YOU MEAN WE SHOULD ASK JDR IF HE ACTUALLY SAID IT AND TAKE HIS ANSWER HOOK LINE AND SINKER? YOU MEAN PATUOHON MI NIMO KANG JDR KUNG UNSAY IYANG ISULTI ANG TAKE IT AS GOSPEL TRUTH BECAUSE AFFIDAVITS OF OTHER WITNESSES HAVE NO PROBATIVE WEIGHT?
ANGRY, YOUR LINE OF REASONING, THE WAY YOU ARRANGE YOUR FLIMSY ARGUMENTS SOUND REALLY LIKE JUN DEL ROSARIO. DILI KA ABOGADO SO BE CONTENT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE ACHIEVED IN YOUR LOWLY EXISTENCE. KAIRO MO MAN!
ANGRY 293
THIS IS YOUR POST: You say Dr. Borrinaga tells the truth. Let me be clear – you are not well qualified to speak about truth. I would say Dr. Borrinaga’s charges are not true, except he, like you, doesn’t really say what the charges are. He has strongly implied that JDR is responsible for some form of “scare†or “panicâ€, and like you he has not even explained what he thinks JDR said, and how that was improper.
YOU MEAN THAT I AM NOT CAPABLE OF TELLING THE TRUTH? AND THAT YOU ALONE CAN TELL THE TRUTH RESPECTING DR. BORRINAGA’S NEWS ARTICLE? MY GOD, WHAT HAVE YOU GOT FOR A BRAIN? TO ASSERT THAT YOU AND YOU ALONE CAN TELL THE TRUTH AND ALL OTHERS CANNOT IS LIKE TELLING US THAT WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO SPEAK.
THIS IS YOUR POST: My statement that you outspent Espina is a reasonable way of saying that you were paying more per vote, which you were. IF YOU ARE SURE THAT I REALLY PAID THE PEOPLE MORE THAN THE ESPINAS, SHOW YOUR PROOF HERE AS I AM ASKING YOU TO PROVE. YOU HAVE NOT SHOWN ANY PROOF SO FAR. YOU ALSO ATTRIBUTED TO ME PROMISES I NEVER MADE IN THE COURSE OF THE CAMPAIGN.
DURING THE LITTLE TIME I HAVE LISTENING TO YOUR BROADCAST, AND COMPARING IT WITH THIS POST UNDER ANGRY… I HAVE ONLY ONE CONCLUSION… YOU ARE JUN DEL ROSARIO. YOU REALLY HAVE GOT A SICK MIND. PATAMBAL ‘DISHONORABLE-SOON.’
ANGRY (ALL THE TIME)
I DONT NEED YOUR RESPECT. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU ARE. I KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO GET FROM ME. YOU WONT HAVE IT JDR. YOU WILL NEVER GET WHAT YOU WANT FROM ME.
I VALUE THE RESPECT OF EVEN THE POOREST OF OUR PEOPLE. BUT I DO NOT VALUE THE RESPECT OF THE VILEST TRAITORS TO ROAM THIS PLANET. THE FEELING IS MUTUAL JDR. I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR SOMEONE WHO APPEARS TO BE BRAIN-DAMAGED DISHONORABLE PUBLIC FIGURE.
MY FELLOW FREEDOM FIGHTERS
I WILL NOT BE AROUND TOMORROW SA RADYO NATIN BECAUSE I WILL BE IN TACLOBAN FOR A PRESS CONFERENCE AS I PROMISED THE ESPINAS BEFORE.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN ME. I THANK YOU FOR DEFENDING ME HERE AND ELSEWHERE. I OWE YOU MUCH AND I HOPE I CAN REPAY YOU GUYS ONE OF THESE DAYS IN WAYS THAT YOU CAN REALLY BE THANKFUL.
Diay pampahilom sa pangbastos ug panginsulto ni Angry-ngit ug Angry sa mga taga Naval dinha sa mga blogs, gikan kang Dr. Borrinaga, ang webmaster sa Hometown Naval website.
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Angry,
You simply don’t understand our local culture (Naval and Biliran culture, not the entire country’s), you don’t understand the entire context of the debate in several blogs including http://www.biliranisland.com, and you don’t understand me. So I don’t think a further word from my end will help.
The answers to your questions have been repetitively given in numerous blogs written in our Bisayan language. I do not need to itemize them here. Too bad the people you are defending in the blogs did not oblige you with the detailed translations, if only to make you appear less like a loose cannon.
I do not need your advise and lecture for my journalism. I know its discipline and demands, including putting my by-line in controversial items. In the past, I had won the grand prize in the Rotary Club of Manila Journalism Awards, probably the most prestigious prize in Philippine journalism, and two other prizes. On the other extreme, I got a “persona non grata” resolution from the Sangguniang Panlalawigan of Biliran, signed by the governor. What have you got?
This is a pretty terrible thread. Lots of infighting and accusations and it goes on and on. I have some points to make, if you will all permit me. I will do so over the next couple of days because there is much to comment on.
Just to start with:
Jun Del Rosario’s broadcast on the volcano/earthquake subject. Maybe it was well-meant – I can’t think of any other devious reason other than filling air-space. It caused a panic in Biliran. That is a fact which I can attest to. Exactly what he said doesn’t matter too much. Let us give him the benefit of any doubt. What he said did cause panic and concern and worry. That is reality. As a broadcaster you must accept responsibility for what your audience understands. You cannot say things like “I didn’t say that”. You have to get straight back on the radio and apologise. People make mistakes and we all accept that. It would appear that there is so much commotion that JDR either didn’t realise the drama he created or if he did he wasn’t big enough to clear the issue as soon as he had the chance. Re-listening to the transcripts seems a petty and pointless exercise.
Glenn Chong 304/305/306
BTW, I am not Jun, but thanks for the compliment. I don’t think our logic patterns are very similar, but to each his own impression.
Okay, let me address your issues:
A-304) I don’t quite understand what you’re getting at about a court. I guess you are defending the need to use affidavits in the matter of the volcano controversy. Why do you need affidavits about what people think they heard when we have the recording of what they actually heard? (I said that before, and I don’t understand your difficulty with that concept.) Besides, who you going to get an affidavit from that’s not aligned with your party, who can say with confidence exactly what they heard Jun say? I think the difficulty of such an affidavit standing up under cross exam is much greater then you imagine.
The source I was referring to is the recording of what Jun said, not Jun himself as you seem to think. Do you think the recording will act in its own best interest? Why even have a conversation about speculation or affidavits when we can know for sure? Just simply produce the recording. Why so much difficulty about that? You have lots of power, don’t you?
Besides, as I said, you have not even said what you think Jun said, or explained how what he might have said was malicious. You just seem convinced he said something that must have been bad. How can he even deny your accusations when they are too vague to be understood? Why would you make such accusations without checking the tape first? And why do you continue to not produce the tape you said you had access to?
Why is the volcano incident so important to you anyway? Even if everything you seem to think is true (which you haven’t defined), it’s still a tempest in a teapot. Even if someone accepted your affidavit or assertion that Jun somehow caused a scare, that’s still a long way from attributing bad intentions, except in your imagination. If someone in your party had somehow triggered a scare of some sort (and I’m not saying Jun did that), you would laugh it off as unintentional, and if the other party suggested it was a cause for persecuting that person you would be highly offended.
B-305) About Dr. Borrinaga, you say – do I mean that you’re not capable of telling the truth? No, I don’t mean that. If you were not capable of telling the truth, then lying would not be evil. I’m sure you tell the truth sometimes. Do you want me to list the things I am highly confident you lie about? I have done that before, and I will do it in another post soon, but the list is long so let’s not get distracted here. (Lying is not the only issue, don’t overlook malice and bigotry.)
You say – do I think I alone can tell the truth about Dr. Borrinaga? The answer is No. I think many people would agree that his methodology is poor and his intent unprofessional. I gave specific reasons. I said his methodology is poor because of certain things, and no one answered the argument except to get mad. If you disagree with my assessment of Dr. Borrinaga’s work, my reasons are well stated on his site, address the arguments. Telling you what I think is in no way saying that I alone can tell the truth. And it’s very disingenuous of you to phrase it that way. I have done nothing to deserve that characterization.
Am I saying others have no right to speak? I wish you would speak . . . meaningfully. I’m just saying you’re not addressing what should be addressed here. That doesn’t have to do with truth or your right to speak. What have I done to infringe on your rights?
C-306) This post is really quite humorous. I don’t know what you think JDR or I want from you. The only thing I want from you is to start being responsible. I don’t care that you opposed Espina. I only care that you are saying very bad and malicious things with no justification. Why do you always call JDR the son of Espina? This is a terrible offense to him and his family.
Now you say vile traitor, brain-damaged, dishonorable . . . You have never explained any of this. What is your rationale? What is your justification? Are you qualified to diagnose brain damage? Is someone who doesn’t agree with you a traitor? All of my charges against you have been specific. And I believe Jun only says something negative about you when he is very specific about what he means. None of your charges have been specific. We do not know what you are complaining about except possibly you don’t like to be criticized. If so, you’re in the wrong job.
That we don’t respect each other is not new news.
BTW, I’m changing my screen name from Angry to Putative. I’ll explain this in my next post. Really you are the one who’s angry. Your attempts at invective only make me laugh. But unfortunately some seem to take you seriously.
IKAW ANGRY BUGO KA!!! LIWAT KA SA IMO AMAHAN NGA UPAW!
BAYOTA K AAYAW PAGPAKA MALINIS KY HILAS PAMATION BASN NKALIMOT NKA BAYOT NGA IMO LALAKI GDALA NMO SA APARTMENT SA AKONG TITA UNYA MI INGON KA IMO STAFF PRO IMO DIAY LALAKI!
UTRO LANG PAKADA-UTI NAPOD C REP. CHONG ILADLAD NKO DRI KUNG UNSA KA, KA HUGAW NGA BAYOT!
MO TXT UG MGA STUDENTS SA NIT NYA E CHECK IN SA JAN DELS CABIN? GUSTO NMO ILADLAD NKO TANAN?
EDIOT!!!
RECALL FOR JUN DEL ROSARIO (TERRORIST) AND HIS UPAW’S TEAM!!! THIS WAY WILL START THE NEW YEAR WITH A MASSIVE CLEAN-UP OF NAVAL’S GOVERNANCE… ONWARD TO BILIRAN’S PROGRESS!!!
ONLY TRUE BILIRANONS AT HEART HAVE THE SINCERE OBJECTIVE TO MAKE BILIRAN A PARADISE AGAIN!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR FOR A CORRUPTION-FREE, PIRATES FREE AND JDR FREE BILIRAN!!
ANGRY
bisan tinuod ang gisulti ni JDR, e deny gyud nimo, atty OUTLAW gyuf ka!!!!!!! dili na pwede sa korte ting, not like sa uban nga naa gyuy mga ebidensiya, kanang imo ikaw ra sad nag istorya nga tinuod na, ipakita ang mga ebidensya dodong, mao nay tuho-an sa korte d ba!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRAIN DA sad tingali ka, puro takdan sa LAGAS cge lang pangilad, cge lang pangatik!!!!!!!!! na hala ari nako, bye bye!!!
Angry 310,
Basaha nang blog ni Bill Gregory sa 309 kay klaro kaayo na kung unsay kasaypanan ni JDR. Nakasabot siya sa Iningles ni Jun sa radyo ug ang ning-abot nga mensahe sa nakalisang sa mga tawo.
Nasakpan ta na ka didto sa laing blog nga nagdala sa bag-ong alyas nga Putative. Pareho ra ni sa imong daang mga alyas, duol sa imong puting itlog. Sumala pa ni Tamsy, kuan kono ka Puta Talkative.
Bill Gregory 309:
Thanks for your sensible post.
I agree that there is no reason to think whatever Jun said about the volcano was not well-meant.
I don’t agree that a broadcaster necessarily needs to assume responsibility for whatever misinterpretations result from what he said. In this case, it’s obvious that some of the “misinterpretation” was intentionally malicious, and that the extent of the “scare” was exaggerated and promulgated as a political ploy. I think if Jun had apologized on air his opposition would have taken it as an admission of guilt and just poured on more abusive rhetoric. This is nothing more than a desperate effort to manufacture something to “nail” Jun with. Maybe some kind of comment from Jun would have been good, but at this point, there’s no reason to discuss what Jun might have done differently in that respect.
I do think it would be useful to produce the tape to prove that the many people, including Glenn Chong’s radio co-host, who swear they heard Jun say something bad and accusing him of “terrorism”, are not speaking with the best of intentions. They make serious charges irresponsibly, and this should be dealt with.
I really don’t want to talk about this anymore either, but the Chong forces, especially Glenn himself, keep accusing Jun of terrorism, etc. (see Glenn Chong’s recent posts and Minda 312)
I am changing my screen name from Angry to Putative.
Let me explain the reason for this.
Glenn Chong has taken to calling Jun del Rosario the “putative” son of Gerry Espina. There are several things to say about this:
1) Only people who know English very well know this word. I’m sure some native speakers don’t know the word putative. Thus, most Filipinos who hear or read this will not understand the implications of this word and will only hear the last part, the malicious slander.
2) Glenn Chong seems to think putative means “reputed” or “reported”. Thus he appears to be trying to evade his legal responsibility for calling JDR illegitimate by implying “it’s just something I heard”, as if it is somehow less vile to repeat malicious rumors if one suggests – “hey it wasn’t me who started this”. In reality it is I think more vile to try to shirk one’s responsibility in repeating such low-life slimy hearsay.
3) However, what putative really means is “accepted as true” or “as is common knowledge but not generally spoken”. In other words, putative does not lessen the import of the slander. It is just as much a libelous, defamatory, malicious allegation as a straightforward accusation, perhaps more so for being covert.
ANGRY 310
THIS IS YOUR POST: Now you say vile traitor, brain-damaged, dishonorable . . . You have never explained any of this. What is your rationale? What is your justification? Are you qualified to diagnose brain damage? Is someone who doesn’t agree with you a traitor?
TRAITOR: ONCE JDR ASKED ME BY TEXT KUNG PWEDE UNDANGON NA NAMO ANG PAGBINGKIL-BINGKIL SA RADYO. I READILY AGREED. THAT WAS SOMETIME IN LATE JULY OR EARLY AUGUST 2007. I THOUGHT WE HAD A TRUCE. THEN SOMETIME IN EARLY SEPTEMBER 2007… HE ANNOUNCED ON RADIO THE AUTHORS OF HOUSE BILL NO. 1 CONCERNING CHEAPER MEDICINES. HE DID IT ABOUT 8 TIMES IN THE COURSE OF HIS PROGRAM. HE ALSO TEXTED ME THE NAMES OF THE AUTHORS. ANG IYANG BUOT IPASABOT… WA DIDTO ANG AKONG NGALAN AS CO-AUTHOR OF THE THE BILL ON CHEAPER MEDICINES THEREFORE IMPLYING THAT I WAS LYING ON RADIO ALL ALONG. I TEXTED HIM THAT YOU ARE REALLY A VILE TRAITOR… I PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED THAT I WAS CO-AUTHOR OF HOUSE BILL NO. 1199 ALSO ON CHEAPER MEDICINES AND NOT HOUSE BILL NO. 1. WHY WOULD JDR DO THAT? WHY WOULD HE IMPLY THAT IM A LIAR. I SAID HE IMPLIED BECAUSE HE REPEATED IT MANY TIME ON HIS PROGRAM AND HE EVEN TEXTED ME. I THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT NOT TO HIT EACH OTHER. HE BROKE THAT AGREEMENT… AND WHAT WOULD YOU WANT ME TO CALL HIM… A GENTLEMAN? NO WAY I WILL TRUST HIM AGAIN.
BRAIN-DAMAGED, DISHONORABLE: I SAID IN MY POST ‘WHO APPEARS TO BE BRAIN-DAMAGED’… I DID NOT SAY WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY AS TO ALLOW YOU TO CHALLENGE MY QUALIFICATION TO MAKE SUCH A CONCLUSION. (KINI KAY NAGTIKALAWUM ANG IDEA SA ININGLISH MAGPATAKA NI UG ENGLISH). LOOK AT YOUR BEHAVIOR ON RADIO LAST SUNDAY AROUND 1PM. YOU WERE SHOUTING AND RAVING MAD AS IF YOU RULED THE AIRWAVES. YOU WERE ACTING LIKE A DERANGED PERSON AND IN A MANNER SO DISHONORABLE FOR A PUBLIC OFFICIAL… IT ACTUALLY GIVES OUR PEOPLE A GROUND TO RECALL YOU ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE ESPINA-PLIANT COUNCILORS. ANY PERSON OF SOUND MIND WILL HAVE REASON TO QUESTION YOUR SANITY AT THAT TIME. I AM ONE OF THE MANY WHO THINK YOU WERE AT THAT TIME… OUT OF YOUR MIND. SOME PEOPLE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU WERE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF DRUGS AT THAT TIME.
THESE ARE MY JUSTIFICIATIONS.
TOBLERONE 311
I HAVE TWO FORMER EMPLOYEES NGA NAG-ISTORYA SA ILANG GIDANGATAN WHILE IN THE HANDS OF JDR. ACTUALLY ONE OF THEM IS VERY MUCH WILLING TO DISCLOSE ON AIR WHAT JDR DID TO HIM. I JUST WITHHELD HIM FROM TALKING ON AIR OUT OF DECENCY.
MINDA 312
HAHAHA. NAKATAWA KO SA IMO POST ABOUT NAVAL BEING JDR-FREE. I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO RECALL THE VICE-MAYOR AND ALL ESPINA COUNCILORS BECAUSE THEY ARE GIVING OUR MAYOR A VERY HARD TIME. ACTUALLY, BUOTAN KAAYO SI MAYORA SA ILAHA BUT WA GYUD SILA MAGTAN-AW SA KAAYUHAN SA LUNGSOD KAY SI GERRY ESPINA LANG GIHAPON ANG ILANG GINOO. WE SHOULD RECALL OUR VOTES!
KKB 314
HAHAHA. PUTA TALKATIVE IS VERY FITTING NIYA KKB. MAAYO SAD KA MOHIMO UG ALIAS DAH! SO LET’S ADDRESS PUTATIVE AS PUTA TALKATIVE… ONE THAT RIGHTLY FITS HIM.
ANGRY 315
ACTUALLY, I HAD NO IDEA THAT WHAT JDR DID ALREADY BORDERS ON TERRORISM. THAT IDEA CAME FROM A RESPECTED PRIEST WHO POINTED IT OUT TO ME.
PUTA TALKATIVE 316
PUTATIVE IS A LEGAL TERM. I USED IT IN THAT SENSE. IF JDR THINKS HE HAS BEEN LIBELED BY THE USE OF THAT WORD… THEN HE CAN GO TO COURT AND I WILL ANSWER HIM THERE. THE DEFENSE IS SIMPLY… DEFENSIVE LIBEL… YOU HAVE LIBELED ME SO MANY TIMES IN THE VILEST FORMS ON AIR, THEREFORE I HAVE THE RIGHT TO REPLY IN THE SAME MANNER. BESIDES, YOU REALLY SOUNDED LIKE YOUR PUTATIVE FATHER IN THE MANNER OF LAUGHING AND YOUR VOICE. SO IT GIVES US AT LEAST SOME GROUND TO THINK YOU REALLY ARE. AND IF PROVEN TRUE BY DNA… THEN OPS…
PUTA TALKATIVE
I KEPT MY PROMISE TO HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE AND TELL OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT THE ESPINAS ARE DOING IN BILIRAN. I TOLD THE MEDIA ABOUT THE CASE WE FILED AGAINST ROGER ESPINA CONCERNING ILL-GOTTEN WEALTH INVESTED IN HIS MULTI-MILLION BILIRAN GARDEN RESORT.
BY THE WAY, NAPA-BULLDOZE NIMO ANG BARAS NI MANO BOY TY? WA! HADLOK MAN GANI KA DAKPON. KAY KUNG IMO PA GIBUHAT ANG IMONG BAHAD… I WILL REALLY ARREST YOU. YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THE RULE OF LAW.
MAGPAABOT KO SA IMONG BAHAD NGA COMPLAINT SA ETHICS COMMITTEE SA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES UG SA SUPREME COURT. I ASSURE YOU, I WILL USE IT AS A MEDIUM TO LAUNCH MY COUNTERMOVE AGAINST THE ESPINAS. REMEMBER, I HAVE MANY DOCUMENTS IN MY POSSESSION THAT I CAN WAVE BEFORE THE MEDIA WHICH IN TURN WILL PRESSURE THE OMBUDSMAN. I DONT WANT TO LOOK LIKE AKO ANG NAGUNA-UNA. BUT KUNG UNAHAN KO… I HAVE EVERY REASON TO TAP THE MEDIA. SIGE, GO AHEAD. I URGE YOU TO DO EXACTLY AS YOU PUBLICLY DECLARE. I WILL PIN DOWN ROGER ESPINA IN FRONT OF THE NATIONAL MEDIA WITH HIS BILIRAN GARDEN RESORT. AKO JUD KA GIHAGIT PAGTUMAN SA IMONG HAGIT UG BAHAD BATOK NAKO.
Angry 315
“I don’t agree that a broadcaster necessarily needs to assume responsibility for whatever misinterpretations result from what he said. In this case, it’s obvious that some of the “misinterpretation†was intentionally malicious, and that the extent of the “scare†was exaggerated and promulgated as a political ploy. I think if Jun had apologized on air his opposition would have taken it as an admission of guilt and just poured on more abusive rhetoric.â€
I must disagree – JDR is using the radio to communicate and he has a wide audience to satisfy in both terms of literacy and education and in terms of communicating in two languages. He did create alarm and concern on that day! He should have immediately recognized that he had been misunderstood and had the courage to rectify the people’s understanding at the first possible opportunity. That is the measure of a man – to take responsibility for his actions. If you worry about ‘admissions of guilt’ and what your opposition will do then you are playing into their hands and a minor mistake becomes “The Great Volcano Debateâ€. There may be no JP Rizal’s left to us but we can at least try to emulate him – he wouldn’t have shirked his responsibilities.
Had the ‘enemies’ launched their attacks after JDR had apologised for not making himself as clear as he perhaps should have done, then I for one would be rallying to the defence of the unfairly attacked.
Nah! Morag napasaw na gyud ang mga hudyat ni Angry/ Puta Talkative. Ambot kung insultohan ba pod kaha niya si Bill Gregory karon, nga dili man ni siya lumad sa Naval.
Huwaton nato ang sunod niyang ipagawas nga alas, kung naa pa. Pero pamati nako wa na.
Maayo pa balikan nato ang debate parte sa buwangan. Klaro na kaayo karon nga duna na diay toy permit and buwang nga gipa raid sa mga pulis nga inubanan ni Jun del Rosario sa Atipolo sa niaging buwan. Nagburabura ra ba intawon ang iyang baba pag insistir nga illegal kono to. Unsaon na lang kaha ni pagpalusot ni JDR, Dok Rabbit ug Pawiks karon, aron dili sila mauntolan.
Kadtong pag ihaw sa mga iburuwang nga manok sa mga pulis, mora to ug calculated provocation sa cockfighting aficionados sa Naval, nga gipaluyohan ni Pawiks ug ni Dok Rabbit. Kay kung may atubangay nga ningsukol, mamusil pod seguro tong mga pulis.
Pero kay kalma man lagi ug mga ulo ang parapamuwang sa Naval, nakita na hinuon karon ang kaabusado sa mga awtoridad. Nagbalyo na man unta ang hangin sa politika sa Biliran, ngano man nga ang mga Bandido lang man gihapon ang manghasi sa atong mga tawo?
We seem to have a number of issues and a vast number of toings and froings together with some very silly and childish comments by people who should know better. This is a Forum not a children’s playground. The fact that Jun Del Rosario may be ‘gay’ is of no consequence or interest to anyone with even the smallest amount of gray matter. The very old story about his parentage had no need to be resurrected and it reflects more on the lack of intelligence and manners of his accusers than on Jun. My only surprise is that Gerry Espina has not taken immediate action to refute the claim and the ‘slur’ on himself and Jun’s parents.
I am sure that there are many more important problems in Biliran than cock-fighting issues, but perhaps the things that have priority are those on which political capital can be made. If this is the case then things are pretty sad going into the new year. There are some very good points or questions on this thread but they get lost in the vast amount of political infighting.
For the New Year, I would like to see people listing their priority concerns for Biliran. What worries you most? The Death Rates on our roads? Smoke belchers and no-one doing a thing about it? Quality of education and educational materials? Flagrant ignoring of the law in publishing Barangay and Public Accounts? Capital Gains Tax paid by the buyer and not the seller? Timekeeping and lateness! Why can’t anyone plan? Why doesn’t the law prosecute more instead of expecting people to file cases? I could go on and on but I have only a limited perspective, but collectively you all have a good view of what you want for the future. This Forum may be small but from small acorns giant trees can grow.
Post 309: One thing I don’t understand is to why JDR was made a fall guy when people react negatively on the volcano scare. Why does he need to apologize? He did not say, people from the mountainside, sell your land and livestocks, pack your bags and leave Biliran because the volcano will erupt in a few days. If he did say this on air, then you can pin him down, but he did not. The subject of his broadcast was the volcano and it’s true that even today Biliran is experiencing frequent shakes. People know this for a fact, so why made him responsible for their reactions. He did not control their minds nor their lives. They are free to make decisions. Whatever their assessment of their situation is, it shouldn’t be used negatively to blame him just because he mentioned volcano in his broadcast. Are we the people in Biliran that stupid? Or, is JDR an easy target? It is easy to rationalize the latter if you dislike him so much. But to be fair, JDR shouldn’t be held responsible for people’s thoughts and reactions because it is beyond ones control.
JDR, in order for you to be credible in the eyes of Biliran folks, you need to disassociate yourself from the Espinas. Otherwise, you will remain the villain even if you do good things. Think it over and stay away from them. They are quicksand. Don’t you have any pride that you allow yourself to be their main lackey? Stand on your own two feet and do good things to the betterment of the Biliran people and your hardwork will be recognized someday. But, for as long as you associate with them, you are fighting a losing battle. Be brave and don’t let them use you. Be a man of honor.
Bill Gregory 320
As I said before, I am not JDR, so I didn’t realize that he actually did exactly what you are saying he should have done. There are even a couple of references in posts here to Jun making two statements about the volcano. The second one was as soon as he became aware that there was a reaction – I think two days later – in Cebuano. That doesn’t seem to have mollified his detractors.
I certainly agree with you about constructive posts and suggestions and would be glad to participate in an on-going conversation of that nature. I’m sure you consider my posts part of making this blog “a pretty terrible thread” as you say, but I want to point out that what what happening here before I started posting can only be described as irresponsible “bashing”. It was my intent to let the unbiased readers (it there are any) know that there is another side to the story, and to tell the bashers that their rhetoric is way off base – over the top and under the belt, to ask them to stop and think. They say I’m a bit wordy, okay.
BTW, notice that they have taken your first post as supporting the charges against JDR, which I believe was not your intention at all. It was even copied to Dr Borrinaga’s site and he posted a note there to that effect.
As for Glenn Chong saying that the charge of “terrorism” was suggested or initiated by a “respected” priest, as if that lends validity, maybe he can share the priest’s basis for that accusation (as no one else has given one) or maybe the priest’s name so we can respect him a bit less.
Bill G
I agree with you that Gerry Espina might have addressed the issue of paternity more forcefully. However, it is a sad state of affairs when someone has to do a DNA test to defend himself against unfounded slander of this nature. BTW, there may be a little surprise for Glenn Chong in this arena before long.
Thank you ever so much for the important information you afforded me.
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