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A LETTER TO CARDINAL ROSALES:

Gaudencio Cardinal Rosales
Archbishop of Manila
121 Arzobispo St., Intramuros,
P.O. Box 132, 1099
Manila, Philippines

Dear Cardinal Rosales,

Greetings in the Lord.

I am forwarding my sworn statement concerning Most Rev. Filomeno G. Bactol, Bishop of Naval and the Clergy of the Diocese of Naval.

You have vowed that due attention to any report and would further action especially if a case merit further probe.

I have other statements and other material to back an investigation into this matter.

I look forward hearing from you on this subject, since you made it clear that investigations would be conducted!

Hope to hear from you soon,

I remain,

Sincerely yours in Christ, &
Our Mother of Perpetual Help,

(Bro) Stephen M. Greinke, MBPH
Superior / President


Letter from Cardinal Rosales, Archbishop of Manila concerning Bishop Filomeno Bactol, Bishop of Naval, Biliran and the Sexual Abuse Charges

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  1. According to Canon Law of the Catholic Church the Discipline of a Bishop is reserved to the Supreme Pontiff. The Nuncio represents the Holy See (Holy Father) to the Philippines. But all information concerning the behavior of a Bishop is transmitted to the Holy through the Papal Nuncio. CBCP has no authority to discipline a fellow bishop, but can refer a problem to the Holy See through the Papal Nuncio. – This information was also communicated to us by letter through the former President of the CBCP – Archbishop Quevedo. Archbishop Quevedo ask the Nuncio to investagte Bishop Filomeno Bactol, Bishop of Naval.

    Bishop Bactol has strong political relations with the former first lady Imelda Marcos (Imelda’s Bishop). Imelda was the person who recommended to the Holy See that Bactol be made Bishop. The Marcos Family have donated much to the Vatican over all these years. So before the investigation can get anywhere the Marocs factor needs to be overcomed.

    Nuncio Archbishop Adams (an American) will need to put into practice what he has learned from the mistakes of the sexual abuse cases in the USA. CBCP knows that Filomeno G. Bactol has sexual problems with youth below the age of 16. So what will break first, good donations or cleaning up moral problems in the Diocese of Naval, Biliran.

    With the resent resignations (asked to resign). of two Philippines Bishops, Bishop Nestor Carino of Legazpi on November 7,2007 and Bishop Jesus Cabrera of Alaminos , July 2, 2007. Maybe Rome is trying to clean things up!

  2. This is a lie, a very big lie.

    This is the work of an evil man trying to destroy the very good name of Bishop Filomeno G. Bactol.

    With all my heart together with all my friends in the Diocese of Naval , we hereby announce our full and wholehearted support to Bishop Filomeno G. Bactol.

    We will pray that GOD will forgive this evil man and enlighten his mind.

    GOD Bless.

    Judith Kho

  3. Judith Kho 3

    pls substantiate ur claim. mora mag base sa emotion ang imong retort. u r credible f u can substantiate whatever u claim. dili kay basta2x n lang mo react..mora na noun ta anig…unsa bah..

    still, the question is: Is this true?
    :-?

    maypa maghilum nala para dili ma-sensationalize…
    there’s a saying that goes: kung naay aso, naay kayo..

  4. Do u have any evidence concerning about the your accusation about the bishop of naval having sexual relationship with underage youth.. That’s a serious accusation!!!! if it so, why don’t u show ur evidences against him if that is true? :-w[-x

  5. i subscribe to the reaction of ms. judith kho, the accusation is a BIG LIE, the parishioners of the diocese are aware of the moral uprightness of the good bishop.

  6. Let the investigation begin then! All the facts will be brought out by a formal investigation by the Holy See. Names will be given, sworn staments etc….
    To lie underoath is grounds for excommunication – for making false statments. (Canon Law)
    If you feel Bishop Bactol has been wrong – call the Nuncio and say so.

    If you know the Bishop has been having sex with underage boys… then push for his removal.

    The Catholc Church has ways of cleaning up messes like this one.

  7. Here is a contact number for the Papal Nuncio in Manila – Archbishop Edward Adams. Let him know how you feel.

    Mailing Address: 1004 Manila, 2140 Taft Ave.; 1099 Manila, P.O. 3604
    Telephone: (63-2)521.03.06/7
    Fax: 521.12.35

    If you bellieve that Bishop Bactol and the Clergy of the Diocese of Naval are good and holy men tell him.

    If you know there is moral scandal s of the Bishop and some priests let him know them.

    ( Where there is smoke, there is fire)

  8. naa mga suwat naka post sa taas between Stephen M. Greinke and cardinal rosales. ang blogs should be on this premise only.

    insanelyangel 5
    ang burden of proof tua kang greinke. anyway, belying him is premature kay wala pa man kaso.

    ang mga dumadapig sa bishop mas maau pa maghilom nla. in this way mkatabang sila kaysa mag cge ug blog. matud pa nila: shut up or put up

  9. ang amo lagi freezer mo aso man bisag walay kayo? pag sure mo oi… tan-awa nang asoha kay tingalig wala nay kayo..sunog bitaw mo!!!:d

  10. i was an altar boy before and noticed nothing different about Bsgr. Bactol. This may be unfounded accusations thrown against him as repercussions to the previous national elections where most priests joined in the call for the end of political dinasties.

  11. kang jun del rosario gad na nga idea about kang bishop wa namay lain panuway dinhi sa naval ba jdr raman. sukad namiabot dinhi dahan na kagubot!
    Jun Del Rosario Son of Satan!!!!>:)

  12. What does Jun Del Rosario have to do with the charges placed with the Vatican and the CBCP against Bishop Filomeno Bactol and some of the Clergy of the Diocese of Naval? Or the politics and past elections? Nothing!

    These abuse charges will be investigated with the help of both Philippine Cardinals and the CBCP. Hopefully many good things will come of it for the Catholic Church in the Philippines and the Diocese of Naval.

    If there has been politics in the past it is the relationship of the former dictator’s wife Imelda Marcos with the elevation of Filomeno Bactol as Bishop and financial support of the Bishop ( even when the Marcos Family was in Hawaii ) . Everyone knows the Bishop and Imelda are very close to each other.

  13. I would to dare anyone to do this: Look into the eyes of ether Father Jessie Sentina or Msgr. Silas and ask “ Are these charges true?”

  14. MBPHBRTHERS #2, 7, 8. SANTA KHU #4 KUKURUKO #9 I KNOW FOR A FACT NGA GISUGO MO NI GERRY ESPNA PAG HUGAW HUGAW SA MAAYONG NGALAN NI BISHOP BACTOL. GERRY ESPINA IS FINISHED AS FAR AS BILIRAN GOES! DILI NA MOSOGOT ANG MGA TAG BILIRAN NGA MAKABALIK PA NING PAMILYAHA SA PODER KAY, WE, YOU AND I, KNOW FOR A FACT THAT GERRY IS THE BIGGEST CROOK THAT OUR PROVINCE HAS ALLOWED TO RAPE OUR COFFERS!

    AND IF THERE IS A POLITICIAN IN LEYTE AND BILIRAN PROVINCE NGA NAG SIPSIP SA MGA MARCOS KINI SI GERRY NA ANG PINAKA TUTA SA MGA MARCOS! AND PARAMAKAHIBALO KA KANA TANANG ANAK NI GERRY IYA GAPAKAON SA KINAWAT NGA KWARTA! SO WHAT DID YOU EXPECT HIS SONS AND DAUGHTERS WOULD DO NOW THAT THEY ARE ADULTS? WAY LAIN KUN DILI ANG PANGAWAT SAD! AND THAT MY FRIEND IS THE TRUTH ABOUT GERRY ESPINA.

    UNDANGA NA NA NINYO ANG PAKADAUT SA ATONG OBISPO KAY GABAAN BAYA GUD MO! AND FOR WHAT? PARAKAN GERRY??? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! KA MGA GAGO GUD NINYO? GIITCHAHAN RA GANI MO UG BUKOD NI GERRYPORBIDA NA NINYONG PAGHUT!!!

  15. The allegations against Bishop Bactol and some of the clergy go far beyond sexual abuse of minors. These also include violations of the sacrament of reconciliation (a priest hearing the teenager victim’s confession with knowledge and consent of Bishop Bactol) , thief of Church property, misuse of grant money, soliciting for a attempted murder, and buying and selling Mass stipends to pay a priest’s gambling debt. – these are some of the allegations that will be investigated!

  16. when i heard about this scandal wala na jod ko makurat kay dugay naman kini nga issue as i remember naka broadcast pa kini sa abs-cbn news if im not wrong 2001 or 2002 pa kini nahitabo
    according to the news ang bishop daw may gi pang molistiya nga mga lalaking kabataan ang mga sakristan ra usab, og duna pa gani nagpa interview nga sakristan iyang gi asuy sa reporter og unsay gibuhat sa iya sa bishop hilas tuod pamation pero ang bata ra nasayod og tinood ba ang iyang gi asoy dili kita ang maghusga.
    ako katoliko ko pero wala ko magapaka buta ug bungol sa mag panghitabo sa atong relihiyon,
    pero nakurat ko kay dali ra kaayo kadto nahilum nga isyu now i know what is the reason salamat sa inyo mga bloggers unya karun ning botho na sad kini nga issue mura kini og kayo sa imperno nga way paka pawong..
    wait na lang kita sa imbistigasyon og unsay resulta.,,,,

  17. just for review:

    are you sure of what you are talking about? do you have any references for that accusation? Can you give us any specific date or time?

    do you know who is Stephen Grienke the former bro. Steve Grienke in Lupa? do you know why he was deported from the Philippines?

    Just wait for more because i will divulge everything that he was doing to his brothers before . I will tell you who are this guys he sexually molested.

  18. “do you know who is Stephen Grienke the former bro. Steve Grienke in Lupa? do you know why he was deported from the Philippines?”

    Kinsa man na siya ba???

  19. REACTOR

    AS I MENTIONED 2001 OR 2002 I DONT KNOW THE EXACT DATE AND TIME BECAUSE THE ALL NEWS THAT IVE SEEN IN TELEVISION IS NOT NOTED,
    IF YOU ARE INTERISTED,.. WHY YOU DONT GO AT ABS-CBN AND INQUIRE ABOUT THAT REPORT IM SURE THEY HAD THIER COMPILATION OF THEIR REPORTS

    I DONT CARE WHOSE THAT GRIENKIE

  20. for ust for review!

    you should be concern who is Grienkie for he is the one filing the case, for we know it’s a personal or political origin. this is a serious matter as it affect not only Msgr. Bishop but the whole church (which includes our faith, the community’s faith as especally the young generations who might not fully understand the real happening and would only implant in their mind what they hear from the bias media people and word from the mouth).
    Be responsible in what you say in the web.

  21. just for review:

    you must have a moral obligation in bringing this issue against the bishop of Naval. If you are sure of your accusation as what you have seen in ABS-CBN, then, it is your responsibility to provide facts and evidences, otherwise your indictments against the bishop are totally lie and baseless.

    dont dare in telling me to go to ABS-CBN and invistigate it. That is very irresponsible excuses. That is your responsiblity because you are the one who said it. You must be accountable of your statement. Dont say if you are not sure beause I beleive that there is KARMA will happen to you. Dont ignore it…….

  22. alter boy:

    paghulat lang anay kay im gathering facts and evidences of what i knew about former bro. steve ( Stephen) grienke, ( MBPH?). However, to give you some ideas, he organized a religious brotherhood (MBPH)missionary brothers of perpectual help in Lupa, calumpang ,Naval. After almost 10 years, he was accussed of sexually molesting his brothers ( filipino ) who jioned with him. And because the evidences are very substantial, he was deported from the philippines. He was forced to go back to America. Wait for more….. in detail !!!!!!

  23. the fact is im just reviewing the old issues because

    those people who will not accept the issue either truth or lie…
    go for it depend your self as ive told you in my comment dili kita ang mag husga im just reviewing of what does happen last few years.
    katoliko ko sa akong gi ingon og dili na kini bag-o nga issue para nako kay daghan na ang kaparian og mga obispo sa tibook kalibutan nga gi akusahan og sama niani
    sakit para sa ato nga ang ato mismo obispo na apil niani nga issue..

    may nag ingon pa ang (KUNG WAY KAYO WAY ASO)
    may nag ingon sad ADUNAY ASO WALAY KAYO SAMA SA ILANG REF.OR EVEN OTHER SOME MACHINE SMOKES WITHOUT FIRE

    WAIT NA LANG KITA SA RESULATA.. SMOKE MACHINE BA? OR FIRE WITH SMOKE…
    KAYA NGA NAG ISSUE PINAMAGANTANG

    IS IT TRUE?

  24. for more bishops issues visit http://www.bishopissues.com

    Bishop Reilly issues report on Worcester sex abuse
    Priests’ names not given

    Martin Luttrell – T&G STAFF
    February 16, 2004

    The Diocese of Worcester released its first report on the scope of clergy sexual abuse of children yesterday, citing 112 allegations of abuse from 1950 through 2003.
    While the diocese found that only 48 were substantiated and another 31 allegations were considered credible, an activist who works with victims of clergy sexual abuse said the numbers are higher than she had thought.

    “What’s new is that this is the first time we’ve pulled the numbers together and put them in one report,” said diocese spokesman Raymond L. Delisle. “Previously, we had done this one at a time. We were doing this as part of a national study. We put it together and wanted to share that.”

    Bishop Daniel P. Reilly shared the text of the pastoral report yesterday with parishioners during Mass at St. Paul’s Cathedral, which was videotaped and broadcast in the evening on WCTR-TV, Channel 3.

    According to the diocese report, $2,280,833 has been paid in compensation to victims in settlements of abuses between 1950 and 2003. Of that, $1,469,000 came from insurance and $811,833 was paid directly by the diocese.

    An additional $185,879 was spent for victim counseling, services and therapy, the report states.

    In the report, Bishop Reilly emphasizes that “the source of funds for any settlement, therapeutic response or legal fees was the Bishop’s discretionary funds. … No donations to the Bishop’s Fund, or parish contributions to the diocese known as the cathedraticum, or gifts to the Forward in Faith capital campaign were used for anything other than their designated purpose.”

    The bishop’s discretionary funds come from a variety of nondesignated sources, including bequests, specific donations for the bishop’s use, earnings on undesignated funds and/or operational gains from past years, the report says.

    Mary T. Jean of Leominster, leader of Worcester Voice, an organization that works with victims, said the report shows the scope of the problem to be worse than she anticipated. She said those priests who have been removed from the ministry should be identified and required to register as sex offenders.

    “Obviously, it illustrates that the situation is even worse than we had anticipated,” she said. “We had originally disclosed 33 names. But I think that’s true of other dioceses, that they’re showing higher numbers.

    “People are very concerned, especially with the sex registry. These people are living in the community. In the current climate, it’s a very topical issue. Parents are fearful. We don’t know who they are.”

    Mr. Delisle said he is not aware of any plan to make public the names of priests, either accused or removed from the ministry.

    In a finding similar to that in a report released last month by District Attorney John J. Conte, the diocese showed that the instances of alleged abuse peaked between 1975 and 1979, and that most victims did not report them – either to the church or to civil authorities – for an average of 20 years.

    The report also drew a distinction between pedophile abusers, or those who abused prepubescent children, and “ephebophile” abusers, who abused teen-age boys. Of the 45 priests against whom allegations of abuse were made, 80 percent would be considered ephebophiles, the report continued.

    “By presenting this report to you, I hope to promote healing for those who have been abused while remaining cognizant of the rights of those who have been accused but face no process to defend themselves,” the bishop wrote. “This applies, in particular, to those who died before any such allegations were brought to light.

    “We will continue to do all we can to promote healing for those who bring to us substantive allegations of abuse, and put in place additional protections for the safety of children and young people in our care.

    “We must also respect the civil rights due to every American citizen as well as the canonical rights of those who face allegations well past the statute of limitations. …”
    Mr. Conte’s report showed that 86 priests, brothers and sisters of religious orders, and ordained ministers, and three lay persons, have been named as suspects by victims.

    Of these, 37 suspects are living priests attached to the Diocese of Worcester, and one lay person, also connected to the Diocese of Worcester; 20 suspects are deceased priests attached to the Diocese of Worcester, and one lay person connected to the diocese is also deceased.

    “The nature and scope (of the studies) were different,” Mr. Delisle said. “The district attorney looked at child abuse as well as adult. Ours is just on minors. It’s a narrower subset.”

    He said that the diocese will continue carrying out reforms put in place by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in responding to the clergy sexual abuse crisis.

    “For us, it’s been the focus of the charter, young adults, where everyone’s focus has been,” Mr. Delsisle said. “It’ll continue with the steps laid out over the last two years. Safe environment training for the children. That remains paramount, as he put in the report. There’s still ongoing dialogue with the victims, ongoing therapeutic support for victims. We will be able to work with victims who come forward in the future.”

    }

  25. just for review:

    are you sure that you are just reviewing or you want to add another smoke without fire?

    well, if i were you, you better research in the internet and read the the affidavit made by Stephen Grienke. If the issue you were brougth out here is true regarding the victims who were interviewed by the ABS-CBN before , then, im prety sure that Stephen Grienke would mention that in his affidavit.

    So, next time, before firing another smoke be sure that there is fire because what you are doing right now is purely TSISMIS….

  26. just for review #26:

    Maayo pa ang mali-mali na spelling kay nasabatan pa nimo pero ang imong gipanulti wa gyud ka kasabot kon malimali ba!!!!!

    gabaan ka unta…….

  27. Maayo pa ang mali-mali na spelling kay nasabatan pa nimo pero ang imong gipanulti wa gyud ka kasabot kon malimali ba!!!!!

    gabaan ka unta…….

    ANG GABA ANDAM KO MO DAWAT,, KAY KAHIBALO KO KAAYO SA AKONG GI PA NULTI,, AND IM PRETTY SURE NGA DILI KO GABAAN
    OG PROOF ANG INYO GI PANGITA PROBLEMA NA KANA NINYO NAA MAY MAG IMBISTIGA SILA NA ANG BAHALA WAIT NA LANG KITA.

    So, next time, before firing another smoke be sure that there is fire because what you are doing right now is purely TSISMIS….

    DO YOU THINK KINI NGA ISSUE WALAY KAYO?
    HAHAAH YOU ARE SILLY,, IM PRETTY SURE NA POD NGA KINI MAY KAYO KAY TAN-AWA KARUN OHH ASO ASO NA OG MAAYO

    NGANU WALA MAN MO MAKA COMMENT SA AKONG POST NUMBER 27? ABIR ABIR….???/

  28. just for review:

    your presentation in in blog #27 is nonsensical. Why because it has nothing to do with the diocese of Naval. Much more it never mentioned about the video potage that you had seen in ABS-CBN. If you will bring that to the court as your evidence then it will be dismissed right away because it has no probable cause. Our argument here is about the video potage shown in ABS-CBN that you deliberately mentioned. That is what i am after for that you have to prove it.

    Secondly, I told you to make research in the internet and read the affidavit written by Stephen Grienke if he mentioned that video potage you had seen in ABS-CBN.

    Thirdly, when i ask you if you knew Steven Grienke, you just said, “i don’t care, who he is”. If you are really for the truth then you must not be bias by accusing the the bishop but you dont mind who is this person accusing him. As, i told before, Stephen Grienke wants to project his immoral acts before in Naval. We have a lot of evidences.

    Finally, if you don’t believed sa GABA, kay tinood man kaha ang imong gisulti, then good for you because i’m pretty sure that you are lying. And it will happen to you sooner or later. Just wait. ….

  29. “Is it Tue or Not?”

    If the Sworn Statements that Brother Steve has submitted to Cardinal Rosales, CBCP and the Vatican are FALSE – He must be punished for making false statements against Bishop Bactol and the Diocese – Church laws says:

    Canon 1390
    +1. One who falsely accuses a confessor before an ecclesiastical superior of the offense mentioned in can. 1387 incurs an automatic (latae sententiae) interdict; and if a cleric, also a suspension.
    +2 One who furnishes an ecclesiastical superior with any other calumnious denunciation of an offense or who otherwise injures the good reputation of another person can be punished with a just penalty, even including a censure. +3. A calumniator can be coerced also to make
    suitable reparation.

    Canon 1391
    The following can be punished with a just penalty in accord with the seriousness of the offense:
    (1) one who fabricates a false public ecclesiastical document, or changes, destroys or conceals an authentic
    document, or uses a false or changed document;
    (2) one who uses another false or changed document in an ecclesiastical matter;
    (3) one who states a falsehood in a public ecclesiastical document.

    If the Sworn Statements of Brother Steve are TRUE – Bishop Bactol will need to resign as Bishop of Diocese of Naval. If the charges are regarded as most serious by the Holy See, the Bishop Bactol can be removed and lancination from the priesthood.

    Canon 1395
    +1. Outside the case mentioned in can. 1394, a cleric who lives in concubinage or a cleric who remains in another external sin against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue which produces scandal is to be punished with a suspension; and if such a cleric persists in such an offense after having been admonished, other penalties can be added gradually including dismissal from the clerical state.
    +2. If a cleric has otherwise committed an offense against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue with force or threats or publicly or with a minor below the age of sixteen, the cleric is to be punished with just penalties, including dismissal from the clerical state if the case warrants it.

    Simple question: Is it true or not? – It’s up to the CBCP and the Vatican!

  30. REACTOR

    KUNG GUSTO MO NGA IKAW ANG MU ADTO SA ABS-CBN ARUN MAKITA NIMO MISMO ANG INTERVIEW OR VIDEO FOOTAGE… NGANU AKO PA MAN MO ADTO NGA NAKITA KO NAMAN KADTO NAKO IKAW NA LANG ARUN MA REVIEW NIMO OG TARONG

    SA AKONG GI INGON WA AKO CARE THAT GRIENKIE,
    IKAW KUNO AG SEARCH KONG NAKA POST BA KANA SA WEBSITE TAWHANA NAGPATAKA KA LANG MAN OG PA RESEARCH DIHA OI

    AND EXCUSE ME REACTOR IM NOT ACCUSING DERICTLY TO THE BISHOP IM JUST HERE TO REVIEW ABOUT THE ISSUE AT NAKI SAW SAW LANG AKO SA ISSUE

    PERO IM PRETTY SURE JOD NGA TINOOD ANG AKONG MGA COMMENTARYO KUNG PROVE ANG IMO GI PANGITA IKAW NA ANG BAHALA MANGITA ANG ABS-CBN ABRI MAN KANA SA TANANG ADLAW PARA SA KATAWHAN

    MUCH BETTER PA HINOON OG IMONG I- REPORT KINI NGA ISSUE ARUN MO DILAAB JOD KAY SIGURADO NGA MAGKA INTEREST NA SAD ANG ABS-CBN NGA IPADAYUN ANG KANHI NGA ISSUE KAY DILI RABA BASTA BASTA ANG ISSUE KUNG ANG SIMBAHAN NA ANG INVOLVE AMBOT BA MURA MAN UG ULAHI KA SA ISSUE … PAG MATA NA OI REACT REACT KAPA DIHA UNYA DILI MAN DIAY KA UPDATED..

  31. Just for review:

    I’m glad to see you back – only this time you returned to even cheapen yourself further. I don’t go about as a blabbermouth, and it is clear from all my posts that rather than “hinder” truth, I’m asking you guys to face up to the assertions you’ve posted and have been unable to defend. Let me make something clear to you:

    First, you provided a very poor and illogical argument. Since you are supporting the accusation presented by Stephen grienke, then you are liable and considered as one of the accusers.

    I say this Just simply because your assertions were queried, you assume to have arrived and become the judge of others. I thank you so much; but you simply haven’t made any good impression of what you’re trying to represent. That is why I left a clear message in my previous posts.

    Secondly, it seems you don’t understand the proper procedure of our law here in the Philippines. The accuser shall have the burden of proof of supporting such allegation and allow me to quote:

    ” Constitutional Law: Evidence: Presumptions: Burden of Proof: Philippine Land Law. – The general rule as to the burden of proof in criminal cases requires the prosecution to prove the offense charged in the indictment and if the proof fails to establish any essential element necessary to constitute the crime; the dependant is entitled to an acquittal.1″

    You claimed as updated one but sad to know that you are ignorant of the law. That is why I’m challenging you to defend what you are trying to parade as “truth” in today’s time. People are not less concerned, as you said; but if you make statements and call them “truth”, and yet cannot stand by them with a clear pointer to the real facts, what do you call that?

    Finally, I’m sure you are only updated of recent gossip that is why may you refer to the website I provided below and it is all about the affidavit made by Stephen Grienke. Then, read it carefully if he mentioned that video potage you are talking about. I know that Stephen Grienke would mention that in his affidavit if there were video potages had been shown at ABS-CBN.

    http://swornstatementwrittenbystephengreinke.blogspot.com

    Well, nothing “sensible” would pass from me to you – seeing you’ve taken the position of co-accuser to soothe your nerves on false premises. I do wish you’d come back and clarify the fallacies which you connect to the accusation made by Stephen Grenkie. Failing to do so only shows you up for what you truly are. Don’t sob, just be honest.

    Just a brotherly suggestions, would you mind to read the argument presented by a blogger whose alias is “ angry”. I noticed that he/she presented a logical argument or you can ask help from this guy. I’m gonna tired of reading a tedious and clumsy post. So, just relax and don’t forget to do you assignment

    P.S. we are not yet through of the affidavits we are making against the immoral acts of Stephen Grienke. Some of the boys are gone to Cebu and Manila. However, we are sure to present it next year.

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