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acpatagnan
03-31-2008, 04:00 PM
"Do you remember what I said about money and about the men who seek to reverse the law of cause and effect? The men who try to replace the mind by seizing the products of the mind? Well, the man who despises himself tries to gain self-esteem from sexual adventures--which can't be done, because sex is not the cause, but an effect and expression of a man's sense of his own value...

The men who think that wealth comes from material resources and has no intellectual root or meaning, are the men who think--for the same reason--that sex is a physical capacity which functions independently of one's mind, choice or code of values. They think that your body creates a desire and makes a choice for you--just about in some such way as if iron ore transformed itself into railroad trails of its own volition. Love is blind,they say; sex is impervious to reason and mocks the power of all philosophers. But, in fact, a man's sexual choice is the result and the sum of fundamental convictions. Tell me what a man find sexually attractive and I will tell you his entire philosophy in life. Show me the woman he sleeps with and I will tell you his evaluation of himself. No matter what corruption he's taught about the virtue of selflessness, sex is the most profoundly selfish of all acts, an act which he cannot perform for any motive but for his own enjoyment--just try to think of performing it in the spirit of selfless charity!--an act which is not possible in self-abasement, only in self-exaltation, only in the confidence of being desired and being worthy of desire. It is an act that forces him to stand naked in spirit, as well as in body,, and to accept his real ego as his standard of value. He will always be attracted to the woman who reflects his deepest vision of himself, the woman whose surrender permits him to experience--or to fake--a sense of self-esteem. The man who is proudly certain of his own value, will want the highest type of woman he can find, the woman he admires, , the strongest, the hardest to conquer--because only the possession of a heroine will give him the sense of achievement, not the possession of a brainless slut... He does not seek to gain his value, he seeks to express it. There is no conflict between the standard of his mind and the desires of his body.

From the "Atlas Shrugged":)

agta
03-31-2008, 07:45 PM
"Body expresses person

4. There is a deep connection between the mystery of creation, as a gift springing from love, and that beatifying "beginning" of the existence of man as male and female, in the whole truth of their body and their sex, which is the pure and simple truth of communion between persons. When the first man exclaimed, at the sight of the woman: "This is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh" (Gn 2:23), he merely affirmed the human identity of both. Exclaiming in this way, he seems to say: here is a body that expresses the person!

Following a preceding passage of the Yahwist text, it can also be said that this "body" reveals the "living soul," such as man became when God-Yahweh breathed life into him (cf. Gn 2:7). This resulted in his solitude before all other living beings. By traversing the depth of that original solitude, man now emerged in the dimension of the mutual gift. The expression of that gift—and for that reason the expression of his existence as a person—is the human body in all the original truth of its masculinity and femininity.

The body which expresses femininity manifests the reciprocity and communion of persons. It expresses it by means of the gift as the fundamental characteristic of personal existence. This is the body, a witness to creation as a fundamental gift, and so a witness to Love as the source from which this same giving springs. Masculinity and femininity—namely, sex—is the original sign of a creative donation and an awareness on the part of man, male-female, of a gift lived in an original way. Such is the meaning with which sex enters the theology of the body."

-From "Theology of the Body (http://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/jp2tb13a.htm)" by Pope John Paul II

Jeff
04-01-2008, 07:23 AM
Meaning of Sex? There is no need to comb the forest just to seek the meaning of Sex. Lets put it in a simple context that Sex is one of the explicit ways of expressing your love and affection to the person (GF/BF/Wife/Husband/mistress) you love most:):).

acpatagnan
04-01-2008, 09:34 AM
Don't you know that sex is only for procreation not for enjoyment according to the teaching of Roman Catholics church or any religions in general. Sex is the MOST SELFISH ACTIVITY. And it is against the teaching of Christ about self-sacrifice. self-denials. According to religion it is a necessary evil?

echo101
04-01-2008, 10:52 AM
Meaning of Sex? There is no need to comb the forest just to seek the meaning of Sex. Lets put it in a simple context that Sex is one of the explicit ways of expressing your love and affection to the person (GF/BF/Wife/Husband/mistress) you love most:):).

woah.. woah woah.. i beg to disagree about here... Sex should only be exclusive for a wife and a husband in the boundries of holy marriage... Not for Gf or Bf, and absolutley not for mistresses! It's really disturbing to know how the devil blinds and deceives us into thinking bad things as right things or prang "ok lng"... I call to all people specially my fellow Youths out there to pleeeeaaaassseeee, guys, i beg you to change our mindsets about sex and bring it back to where it came from, from the almighty creator... I am a 22 year old youth and i'm proud to stand and say I condemn sexual perversion and sexual immorality in Jesus name! Come on everybody, lets make a difference! You think premarital sex is ok? you think adultery is just fine? well people think again.. 1 corinthians 6:9 (KJV) "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall NOT INHERIT the KINGDOM OF GOD? Be not deceived: neither FORNICATORS (from the word Fornication w/c means "consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other" from webster), nor idolaters, nor ADULTERERS, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind..." these words from God are not joking my friends.. I also had the same view about sex before, I was also blinded once w/c lead me to fornication. But when I first read and understood these words, I just trembled with fear, not just any fear, but the fear of the Lord. And from then I repented sexual immorality and hated it.

agta
04-01-2008, 07:27 PM
Don't you know that sex is only for procreation not for enjoyment according to the teaching of Roman Catholics church or any religions in general. Sex is the MOST SELFISH ACTIVITY. And it is against the teaching of Christ about self-sacrifice. self-denials. According to religion it is a necessary evil?
"Only for procreation"?
Where did you read that? Please show the link here so that we can study it together. If you cannot give the link, then it would be presumed that you are simply imagining.

Jeff
04-15-2008, 12:12 PM
woah.. woah woah.. i beg to disagree about here... Sex should only be exclusive for a wife and a husband in the boundries of holy marriage... Not for Gf or Bf, and absolutley not for mistresses! It's really disturbing to know how the devil blinds and deceives us into thinking bad things as right things or prang "ok lng"... I call to all people specially my fellow Youths out there to pleeeeaaaassseeee, guys, i beg you to change our mindsets about sex and bring it back to where it came from, from the almighty creator... I am a 22 year old youth and i'm proud to stand and say I condemn sexual perversion and sexual immorality in Jesus name! Come on everybody, lets make a difference! You think premarital sex is ok? you think adultery is just fine? well people think again.. 1 corinthians 6:9 (KJV) "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall NOT INHERIT the KINGDOM OF GOD? Be not deceived: neither FORNICATORS (from the word Fornication w/c means "consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other" from webster), nor idolaters, nor ADULTERERS, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind..." these words from God are not joking my friends.. I also had the same view about sex before, I was also blinded once w/c lead me to fornication. But when I first read and understood these words, I just trembled with fear, not just any fear, but the fear of the Lord. And from then I repented sexual immorality and hated it.

Beg first to the priests not to molest and rape innocent young children.

A_Simple_Man
04-15-2008, 12:39 PM
"Neither will I condemn you." (John 8:10-11) What desperation drove this woman to adultery when she knew it could well result in her death? Christ gave her not only forgiveness, but an understanding of love. Thus sex, regardless of the meaning we attribute to it, is one of the most powerful forces in existence. A force that even Christ forgives us for falling victim to.

Jeff
04-15-2008, 03:30 PM
Meaning of sex or lovemaking to the person you love either it is your wife,husband, GF/BF, mistress for isn't bad. If you love him/her, lovemaking or sex is one of expressions of feelings and I don't find it bad at all. It's diffrent thing if you sex with anybody else just for the sake of cooling your thirst for flesh.

agta
05-17-2008, 06:21 AM
"Neither will I condemn you." (John 8:10-11) What desperation drove this woman to adultery when she knew it could well result in her death? Christ gave her not only forgiveness, but an understanding of love. Thus sex, regardless of the meaning we attribute to it, is one of the most powerful forces in existence. A force that even Christ forgives us for falling victim to.

Christ forgave her because she was repentant. Christ's act of forgiving her was not a condonation of adultery or fornication. It simply underscored the value of chastity: That each of us, in spite of our weaknesses, should strive for chastity.
Christ said, "Anyone who so much as looks with lust at a woman has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Math 5:28)
Sex can be an expression of love. But it can also be an expression of lust. Unfortunately, oftentimes, lust is mistaken as love. Sometimes, love is used as a camouflage of lust.

echo101
05-17-2008, 11:23 AM
Meaning of sex or lovemaking to the person you love either it is your wife,husband, GF/BF, mistress for isn't bad. If you love him/her, lovemaking or sex is one of expressions of feelings and I don't find it bad at all. It's diffrent thing if you sex with anybody else just for the sake of cooling your thirst for flesh.

Ibig bang sabhin if you have sex with somebody out of love other than your spouse, ok prin un? or sa bf/gf plang basta out of love? Sex was created by God to bless us.. But if we use it in a wrong way, that blessing will turn into destruction to ourselves, not to anybody else, but ourselves.. Even if we have the right and acceptale motives, but we have the wrong actions, talo prin tayo pag Diyos na kaharap ntin, kc ndi sya tumatanggap ng 99.9%, gusto nya 100%.

Jeff
05-20-2008, 06:40 AM
Ibig bang sabhin if you have sex with somebody out of love other than your spouse, ok prin un? or sa bf/gf plang basta out of love? Sex was created by God to bless us.. But if we use it in a wrong way, that blessing will turn into destruction to ourselves, not to anybody else, but ourselves.. Even if we have the right and acceptale motives, but we have the wrong actions, talo prin tayo pag Diyos na kaharap ntin, kc ndi sya tumatanggap ng 99.9%, gusto nya 100%.

It's a different thing. If you make love someone not your spouse then there is deeper reasons why such thing happened.

hedwig
05-20-2008, 09:36 AM
... ok ,, think ...

.....Sex refers to the male and female duality of biology and reproduction. Unlike organisms that only have the ability to reproduce asexually, sexed male and female pairs have the ability to produce offspring through meiosis and fertilization.

.....and it is also Refers to the biological characteristics that define humans as female or male. These sets of biological characteristics are not mutually exclusive as there are individuals who possess both, but these characteristics tend to differentiate humans as males and females. May also mean "sexual activity."

justme
05-20-2008, 10:15 PM
It's a different thing. If you make love someone not your spouse then there is deeper reasons why such thing happened.

hahaha..like i've always known you pare... <my mouth is sealed>

justme
05-20-2008, 10:28 PM
Beg first to the priests not to molest and rape innocent young children.

good point pare...

i may agree to echo101 that sex should be between husband and wife and children of this generation should be enlighten about this perception...

due to our modern way of thinking na rin kaya maraming kabataan ang ng eengage sa premarital sex... but one advice lang sa mga girls... if virgin ka pa please preserved it until the right man comes along because its the only special gift you could give to your future husband... sa mga lalake naman... dapat pigilin nyo nmn yang kalibugan niyo if you are not yet ready to take the responsibility... and ang mga babae is not a sex object...dapat may respeto kayo...and remember that if a guy truly loves you handa siyang maghintay...

God bless us all...:)

acpatagnan
06-14-2008, 07:25 PM
According to Pope Paul VI, seek is necessary evil. Why is sex evil?
Read the encyclical "Populorum Progressio" the document of Catholics church.

Today's pope, Pope Benedict said in his encyclical to much sex is addicting and bad habit. Why? Is this meaning of sex according to the head of the Catholic church?:D

agta
06-18-2008, 11:12 PM
According to Pope Paul VI, seek is necessary evil. Why is sex evil?
Read the encyclical "Populorum Progressio" the document of Catholics church.

Today's pope, Pope Benedict said in his encyclical to much sex is addicting and bad habit. Why? Is this meaning of sex according to the head of the Catholic church?:D
Pretending to have read the "Populorum Progressio" huh?
You read it yourself, and there see the truth that your accusation against Pope Paul VI is baseless. For the benefit of those interested, click here (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_26031967_populorum_en.html) for the full text of Populorum Progressio.:p

Oh, honesty, what have posters done to you?:rolleyes:

acpatagnan
06-20-2008, 03:43 PM
Pretending to have read the "Populorum Progressio" huh?
You read it yourself, and there see the truth that your accusation against Pope Paul VI is baseless. For the benefit of those interested, click here (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_26031967_populorum_en.html) for the full text of Populorum Progressio.:p

Oh, honesty, what have posters done to you?:rolleyes:

That is exactly the philosophy, the premise, the idea of the church, as a whole. There is no doubt about it. The question is : Is there such thing as necessary evil? It is by nature evil but a necessity? I am not accusing if that is your feelings, but I am only stating what the Pope stated. Sex is a necessary evil. It is necessary for procreation but evil for life's enjoyment. It is addicting if you have too much sex. That is their statement not mine. That is the proof of the fundamental philosophy of the religion or church in regards to sex.

The catholic church do not allow artificial contraception. It is a fact. Why? Because sex is only for production or procreation and NOT for enjoyment. :D
Sex is part of human nature. If it is evil then human nature is evil. Since, man is sinner by nature (original sin) therefore sex is a sin by nature also.:D

It is not my idea it is religious idea. I just stated here clearly.:D